Re: TP 128meg memory prices

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From: Bill Morrow (penzance_at_icanect.net)
Date: Thu Aug 05 1999 - 00:48:24 EDT

Vince..

DIMM = Dual Inline Memory Module of the type used in notebooks...
in this case, the DIMM's i refer to are the type used in the 770 series of
thinkpad..
SO, if a 128meg part for a 770 has 16 chips on it, they must be 16x4, and the
problem with doing this in a thinkpad 770 or other notebook is the aforementioned
real estate problem..
that, apparently, is the only serious problem to using 16x4 over 16x8 chips..

in the case of desktop machines, which i think you may be referring to, all the
chips can be on one side for a 128meg part and on both sides for a 256meg part...

Vincent Poy wrote:

> On Wed, 4 Aug 1999, Bill Morrow wrote:
>
> Hello Bill,
>
> > Vince..
> > it takes 8 16x8 chips to make a 128meg DIMM..
> > it would take 16 16x4 chips to make a 128meg DIMM..
> > double the chips, double the real estate, way lower cost, some disadvantages..
>
> Actually, I looked at all the current DIMM's that are 128 Meg.
> Just bought one today. They use Micron chips and has 16 chips... So the
> single sided DIMMs are the better ones at 128 meg?
>
> > i have NO IDEA why windows does what ever the hell it does..! :-) i
> > just use it because gates made 100 billion $$ by being the best
> > marketer (and other things) around..
>
> Nope, Bill Gates only owns 3% of Microsoft. Not the 23% he used
> to own so the $100 billion isn't all from Windows or MSFT. He makes $200
> million a day in personal investments.
>
> > he got everyone to writ apps for win9whatever and then do and did and
> > THATS its best point..
>
> Yep...
>
> > the PnP is like a nasty teenager.. sometimes they dazzel you with their
> > brilliance and on other occasions they really piss you off..!! :-)
>
> Hehe, that's write. That's why PnP modems suck! hehe
>
> Cheers,
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> > Vincent Poy wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 4 Aug 1999, Bill Morrow wrote:
> > >
> > > Crucial, a division of Micron uses 16x64 NEC chips for the
> > > 128 meg module for $197 that I got last week. How will the 16x4 chips
> > > even fit on a 144 pin SODIMM since would that make it only 8 megs?
> > >
> > > One thing I'm trying to figure out is that someone mentioned that
> > > WIndows resources are done in 64k blocks so wouldn't more memory give more
> > > resources? Seems like going from 128 meg to 256 meg didn't make a
> > > difference. Seems like the machine would be out of resources way before
> > > it takes virtual memory into consideration.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Vince - vince_at_MCESTATE.COM - vince_at_GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____
> > > Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ]
> > > GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ]
> > > Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ]
> > > HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____]
> > >
> > > > Just a note to let the list know that the competition is heating up and
> > > > the 128meg part for thinkpad 770's are coming down in price.. 600's too,
> > > > i imagine..
> > > >
> > > > there is a wide difference between IBM, Apricorn, GoldenRam, et al. and
> > > > some manufacturers are using cheaper (16x4) chips (none of the above
> > > > manufacturers)..
> > > >
> > > > my web site is not updated yet and may not be until tomorrow.. :-)
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails...
> > > >
> > > > ** Bill Morrow ** :-)
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> > > > 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al...
> > > >
> > > > Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will
> > > > vary, Done on a
> > > > closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Live Long and Prosper, Happy trails...
> >
> > ** Bill Morrow ** :-)
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> > 770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al...
> >
> > Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary,
> > Done on a
> > closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home..
> >
> >
> > 

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** Bill Morrow **   :-)
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770Z-8AU, 760ED, 760CD, (5)701C, 560E, 755CE, 750C et al...

Including, but not limited to, Subject to prior sale, Your mileage will vary, Done
on a
closed road with a professional driver AND Do not try this at home..

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