From: Bill Morrow (penzance_at_icanect.net)
Date: Thu Aug 05 1999 - 00:52:24 EDT
hmmm...
it is my understanding that the 8x8 chips have increased in price due in part to the low
inventories and a recent island wide power grid failure in taiwan, whereby a weeks worth
(or so) of chips was destroyed..
my price on 64meg parts went up by about $9 this last week..
Vincent Poy wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Aug 1999, Bill Morrow wrote:
>
> Hello Bill,
>
> > Vince..
> > see my other and further response..
> >
> > you must mean 16x64 because that is what the entire DIMM is..
> >
> > how many chips on your crucial DIMM.. 8 or 16..??
>
> Only 8, 4 NEC chips on each side... Had to close the lid and open
> the memory cover and then open the lid to reply =)
>
> > for now, unless you really NEED a 128meg part, wait a few days for the
> > prices to stabilize..
>
> I know.... Besides, I have 30 days to get my money back so if the
> price goes down, I'll order another one and send the old one back since
> it's all billed to my FedEx account anyways.
>
> > my cost is way over what you paid for the crucial part..
> > but i have misgivings about people who cut the price that far below
> > what the market is..
>
> Actually, remember it can be old stock or something... Micron
> makes their own chips so costs are low for them.
>
> > they are doing something.. either trying to pull a "gates", cutting
> > quality, copying someone else's artwork, cutting warranty or service
> > or tech support.. i fine altruism to be WAAY down on the list.. :-)
>
> Nah, it isn't the warranty, tech support or service since all
> the other stuff went up in price.
>
> Cheers,
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> > Vincent Poy wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 4 Aug 1999, Bill Morrow wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Bill,
> > >
> > > > interesting that crucial is using a 16x64 chip..
> > > > i did not even know there WAS a 16x64 chip available..!!
> > >
> > > Well, all manufacturers use 16x64. Even the big 168 pin boards
> > > need 16 x 64. There would be no way to put 128 megs on anything smaller.
> > >
> > > > the problem with those who make a DIMM using a 16x4 is that there is
> > > > NOT sufficient real estate on the little board, so they grow a bit and
> > > > two won't fit in a machine like the 770 (early)..
> > >
> > > Ah, interesting.
> > >
> > > > in short, the board grows a bit and just does not fit in the space
> > > > provided..
> > > >
> > > > as far as micron goes, what i want to see is a 16x64 ram chip.. :-)
> > >
> > > Hehe... I verified it and the NEC chips are 16x64 =)
> > >
> > > > unless you're saying that the entire DIMM is 16x64 which would be correct...
> > >
> > > Yeah, it's probably the entire DIMM.
> > >
> > > > in any event, pricing on these parts has started to move and for now, nothing
> > > > would surprise me.. :-))
> > >
> > > Yep, Crucial told me that prices will be going up soon... $197
> > > was a really good deal since it was $350 a month ago for the same 128
> > > megs. hehe. I should just see what the price is later and if it drops,
> > > there is always the 30 day money back guarantee. hehe
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Vince - vince_at_MCESTATE.COM - vince_at_GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____
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> > >
> > > > Vincent Poy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 4 Aug 1999, Bill Morrow wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Crucial, a division of Micron uses 16x64 NEC chips for the
> > > > > 128 meg module for $197 that I got last week. How will the 16x4 chips
> > > > > even fit on a 144 pin SODIMM since would that make it only 8 megs?
> > > > >
> > > > > One thing I'm trying to figure out is that someone mentioned that
> > > > > WIndows resources are done in 64k blocks so wouldn't more memory give more
> > > > > resources? Seems like going from 128 meg to 256 meg didn't make a
> > > > > difference. Seems like the machine would be out of resources way before
> > > > > it takes virtual memory into consideration.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
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> > > > >
> > > > > > Just a note to let the list know that the competition is heating up and
> > > > > > the 128meg part for thinkpad 770's are coming down in price.. 600's too,
> > > > > > i imagine..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > there is a wide difference between IBM, Apricorn, GoldenRam, et al. and
> > > > > > some manufacturers are using cheaper (16x4) chips (none of the above
> > > > > > manufacturers)..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > my web site is not updated yet and may not be until tomorrow.. :-)
> > > > > >
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> >
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> > on a
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> >
> >
> >
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