From: STeve Andre' (andres_at_msu.edu)
Date: Sat Aug 05 2000 - 14:52:53 EDT
I don't doubt this at all. First, IBM, just like other companies who make
complex equipment, make changes to things and the maxtrix of products
gets awfully complicated. My experience with IBM products only goes
back to 1981 and the first PC, but friends who've dealt with the older big
iron have told me stories of little "changes" to things that aren't always
clearly documented--something that might be so in one model of a product
might be a little different in another. Is it so hard to believe that a PC
can't
have those characteristics?
Secondly, I have two 760's in the pool of machines I work on and once had
both of them to work on at once, and one of them felt a little faster than the
other. I suspected at the time that there was a cache difference between
the two, but didn't really have the time or interest to delve into it. It did
make enough of a impression on me to have remembered it, however.
Lastly, folks like Denis don't make rash statements. From what I've seen him
state here, he's been a straight shooter. So he has said something that
wasn't common knowledge--given his past, I'd say that's more a reason to
look up more about the subject than say it's a fantasy. Seems like some of
the url's say this same thing, don't they....
I learn new things all the time. Looks like I did that again today.
--STeve Andre'
At 12:01 PM 8/5/00 -0400, Denis Hall wrote:
>Hello again, Steve....
>I make a habit of not making rash statements...and try to verify facts
>before posting anything....nor does Jane, from my experience...
>ThinkPad 760EL #9547-U4G DOES HAVE 256K L2 CACHE, as does U4T and U4K. SAME
>AS 760ED.
>
>And, speaking of "Chips".... it appears you may have one ?....
>
>Dreaming away,
>Denis Hall, Michigan
>
>
> >In your dreams maybe!
> >The IBM Thinkpad 760 Users Guide, page 242, says all
> >three 760EL processors are w/o L2 Cache.
> >
> >Of course they have PCI bus, they all have that but
> >that has nothing to do with it. And no, they can't run
> >
> >the same as a 760ED with 256K cache. You guys should
> >check your information more closely, get some speed
> >tests, such as Wintune from www.winmag.com, etc.
> >before making rash statements.
> >
> >--- Denis Hall <denhall_at_ismi.net> wrote:
> >> Just to add a bit here.....
> >> some of the EL's in fact DO have 256K cache....
> >> And yes, I also consider them to be very fine
> >> machines....with 64mb RAM I
> >> find them totally capable of handling the needs of
> >> 90% of laptop users out
> >> there today...
> >>
> >> Have a Great Day,
> >> Denis Hall, Michigan
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Bruce Markowitz <scosgt_at_worldnet.att.net>
> >> To: Steve C. <stevec50_at_yahoo.com>
> >> Cc: THINKPAD_at_cs.utk.edu <THINKPAD_at_cs.utk.edu>
> >> Date: Friday, August 04, 2000 6:54 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Price Info
> >>
> >>
> >> >Actaully, the EL series is PCI bus, and runs 95
> >> just fine. I ahve had a
> >> >bunch, they run the same as the 760ED.
> >> >
> >> >Steve C. wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Except for use with Windows. The EL series
> >> doesn't
> >> >> have any cache memory which makes Windows run
> >> really
> >> >> slow. It does better than I expected however
> >> since
> >> >> some desktop machines won't even run without
> >> cache.
> >
> >
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