From: Bruce Markowitz (scosgt_at_worldnet.att.net)
Date: Mon Jul 16 2001 - 15:58:57 EDT
The warranty on a 600E P2 400 IS NOT EXPIRED
The battery warranty probably is, however.
If the battery is bad, replace it.
If the machine is bad, IBM WILL fix it
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerry Socco" <gerry.socco_at_na.teleatlas.com>
To: <THINKPAD_at_cs.utk.edu>
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 3:22 PM
Subject: 600E battery does not charge
> I asked my friend from a failed dot.com to buy me one of their company's
> used TP 600E. He was able to get me one in a fair condition cosmetically
but
> loaded to the gills ( 296 ram, PII 400, dvd).
>
> However, there was post it note on the laptop that says "battery does not
> charge". I tried charging the battery but it will not charge. I then tried
> my office mate's TP 600 battery but it still won't charge.
>
> Is there anything else I need to do? FYI, the warranty has expired a
couple
> of months back.
>
> Gerry Socco
> Facilities Manager
> Tele Atlas North America, Inc.
> (formerly Etak, Inc.)
> 1605 Adams Drive
> Menlo Park CA 94025
> Tel 650 328 3825 x 1111
> 650 617 0111 Direct
> 650 642 7888 Nextel
> Fax 650 617 0132
> www.teleatlas.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cottrell, Eric [mailto:ecottrell_at_doble.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 11:53 AM
> To: 'Vincent Poy'; James_at_thinkpads.com
> Cc: THINKPAD_at_cs.utk.edu
> Subject: RE: Upgrading CPU in my Thinkpad - possible?
>
>
> Hello,
>
> One thing I like about the internet is you can go
> get datasheets on stuff like the P2 MMC2 module.
> Being an Electronics Tech, temporarily a software
> engineer, I am familiar with Datasheet land.
>
> Wow the MMC2 connector has 400 pins! It looks like
> the memory/AGP/PCI interfaces are on the module.
>
> The datasheet for the P2 MMC2 module indicates there
> is a FQS line that indicates the 66 MHz or 100 MHz
> bus speed. This reminds me of the line out of a
> regular P2/P3 that selects the FSB. Intel intended
> that this line get connected to the 440BX so the
> FSB gets automagically selected. Some MB makers
> have some facility to override this in the BIOS.
>
> The P3 MMC module has the speedstep stuff in it.
> Some I/O pins are used to connect to control
> circuits off the chip.
>
> One of the considerations is how much heat does
> the fast processor generate and can the 600e
> get rid of it.
>
> I guess it comes down to this. Did IBM put in
> the required support circuitry to support the
> P3 versions. My 600e has 32 megs of memory
> built-in that I assume is PC66. That memory
> needs to be modified or disabled if I upgraded.
>
> 73 Eric ecottrell_at_doble.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vincent Poy [mailto:vince_at_pele.WURLDLINK.NET]
> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2001 9:26 AM
> To: James_at_thinkpads.com
> Cc: THINKPAD_at_cs.utk.edu
> Subject: RE: Upgrading CPU in my Thinkpad - possible?
>
>
> Hello James:
>
> On Mon, 16 Jul 2001, James H. E. Maugham wrote:
>
> > Vincent Poy [mailto:vince_at_pele.WURLDLINK.NET] wrote:
> >
> > > Interesting and I guess the 770Z is still limited to the 66Mhz
> > > bus. Kinda makes you think the PII366 really is slower than a Celeron
> 366
> > > as the PII's all use 1/2 speed cache.
> >
> > Nope, everything is on the MMC2 module planar so the FSB is increased to
> > 100MHz and the 256KB onboard cache runs at full speed just like on my
> 600Es
> > and 600X.
> >
> > It's interesting that _all_ of the MMC1 modules, like in my 2645-850,
have
> > 512KB of cache yet they all run the cache at 1/2 speed! Go figure.
>
> Now, that's interesting. I thought the bus speed was actually
> controlled by the motherboard itself so it's actually the module that
> controls the FSB? Now it would be interesting what the fastest CPU you
> can get in the thing. Yeah, PII's have cache running at 1/2
> speed. PIII's run at full speed. Celeron up to the models before the
> 300A has no cache. Celeron 300A and higher all have full speed cache
> which makes it faster than a PII of the equivelent clock!
>
>
> Cheers,
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