From: Bruce Markowitz (scosgt_at_worldnet.att.net)
Date: Sat Jun 15 2002 - 10:46:27 EDT
Could you explain more fully about shorting the pins?
And I fond a leapfrog setup that does a 1.4 gig Celeron, looks very fast
indeed!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vincent Poy" <vince_at_pele.WURLDLINK.NET>
To: "Bruce Markowitz" <scosgt_at_worldnet.att.net>
Cc: "Cottrell, Eric" <ecottrell_at_doble.com>; "'shamanjp'"
<shamanjp_at_prodigy.net>; "Thinkpad List" <thinkpad_at_cs.utk.edu>
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2002 3:59 AM
Subject: Re: A 30p faster than A 31 in July PC World?
> Well, you don't need a new motherboard since there are two ways to
> do it. If you had a slot 1 motherboard, you can use a Leapfrog adapter
> which comes with a Celeron 1.2Ghz CPU for $179. Or you can simply short
> two of the pins on the Tulatin CPU and use it on a older motherboard.
>
>
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> On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Bruce Markowitz wrote:
>
> > Now a question:
> > I thought the Celerons above one gig needed a motherboard that is
compatible
> > ith the Tulatin chip?
> > But you said that you replaced 550Mhz chips. How can that Mobo be new
enough
> > to support that chip?
> > I have some IBM 300PL's (100FSB) that I have upgraded to P3 1Ghz and
Celeron
> > 1 gig, but the P3 1.1 gig would not work properly, and I assumed that
the
> > new Celerons (with the 256K cache) 1.2 and 1.3 would not work on this
mobo.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Cottrell, Eric" <ecottrell_at_doble.com>
> > To: "'shamanjp'" <shamanjp_at_prodigy.net>; "Thinkpad List"
> > <thinkpad_at_cs.utk.edu>
> > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 6:31 PM
> > Subject: RE: A 30p faster than A 31 in July PC World?
> >
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Looking at the tabook it seems the A30p uses a video chip with a
faster
> > > clock 8->.
> > > Remember that CPU speed is only part of the equation. The differences
> > > between
> > > benchmark numbers will depend on the benchmark as well. The speedstep
> > > feature
> > > can make a difference. Unfortunely I am not aware of the differences
> > > between
> > > the Mobile versions of the processors.
> > >
> > > The discussions I have seen indicate that P4 processors using SDRAM
run
> > > slower than
> > > the newer Tualatin P3 when both are at the same clock speed. 1.4 GHz
P4 =
> > > 1.2 GHz P3.
> > > So I wonder if the difference due to the higher clock is only 14%
instead
> > of
> > > 33%.
> > >
> > > Even the newer Celerons using the Tualatin core (100 MHz FSB) work
pretty
> > > well. I
> > > bought an adapter and replaced some slot 1 550 MHz P3 processors with
1.3
> > > GHz Celerons.
> > > It halfed compile times on a massive software project. The 1.3 GHz
> > Celeron
> > > has half
> > > the cache of a 1.3 GHz P3 but this is the same amount as a 550 MHz P3.
> > The
> > > compile
> > > times with the 1.3 GHz Celeron (100 FSB) are the same as a 1 GHz P3
(133
> > > FSB).
> > >
> > > No doubt there are applications where the P4 is faster than the P3.
It
> > > seems for the
> > > general user there is no great difference between the Celeron, P3 or
P4 in
> > > the same
> > > clock range. I also tend not to notice a task going from 4 seconds
down
> > to
> > > 2 seconds
> > > compared to a task going from 40 seconds down to 20 seconds 8->. I
> > believe
> > > there
> > > is a point (about 300 MHz P2/P3) where a computer will still work
great
> > for
> > > general
> > > tasks. That is why I still use my 366 MHz TP600e.
> > >
> > > 73 Eric ecottrell_at_doble.com WB1HBU
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: shamanjp [mailto:shamanjp_at_prodigy.net]
> > > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 4:44 PM
> > > To: Thinkpad List
> > > Subject: A 30p faster than A 31 in July PC World?
> > >
> > >
> > > Why would a P3-M 1.2GHz A30p be so much faster than a new P4-M 1.6GHz
A31?
> > >
> > > In the top 15 notebook PC's section of the magazine,
> > >
> > > PC WorldBench 4 Performance results
> > > A30p= 113 Outstanding
> > > A31= 90 Average
> > >
> > > Is it XP vs 2000? The hard drive? Actually none of the P4 machines did
> > very
> > > well compared to the P3's.
> > > Interesting...
> > > Jerry
> >
> >
>
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