Re: [Thinkpad] 7200RPM Travelstar

escaping wincrapXX as you so colorfully allude is difficult
for many..

i, and others, must be productive with limited time..
and relearning unix (now linux, solaris, et al) is a rather
steep and time consuming curve..

so we stick with winduhhs95,98,ME,2k,XP et al not because we
WANT to further enrich mr gates but because while a think
the guy is a pompous and pretentious but very very lucky
bast... uhmm, bum, he DID do a few things more or less
right.. and one of those is he got the software vendors to
adhere to some standards.. :-)

please, no flames..

*******************
Cordially,
Bill Morrow
(from NetFinity Server)
web page: http://www.thinkpads.com
bill@thinkpads.com
----- Original Message -----
From: <letoured@together.net>
To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" <thinkpad@stderr.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 5:33 PM
Subject: RE: [Thinkpad] 7200RPM Travelstar

> In <OMELINNJFPPBKNLAELKJMEAICBAA.cschumann@twp-llc.com>,
on 07/26/03
> at 01:01 PM, "Chris Schumann" <cschumann@twp-llc.com>
said:
>
> >Bryan,
>
> >Keep in mind that older ThinkPad's have slower IDE
controllers.
> >An ATA-33 controller can handle only 33MB/s at BEST while
the
> >new drive can deliver 60MB/s at best.
>
> >Also, memory below 133MHz could slow down data transfer
too,
> >if the drive is heavily using its cache memory.
>
> No it doesn't. At least not if you get away from
wincrapXX. The 40gb drive
> with 8 mb cache, I now have in a TP 600E is about 5 times
faster then the 20mb
> it replaced. The difference in the cache.
>
>
>
>
>
> >There are lots of steps in the path of data transfer.
>
> >I'd think these drives would show their stuff best only
on
> >the very newest machines. Now, this is all educated
guessing,
> >mind you. I have no experience with the drive and would
like
> >to hear what Bill has heard from customers!
>
> >Chris
>
>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Bryan Daum [mailto:bryandaum@comcast.net]
> >> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 12:27 PM
> >> To: Bill - ThinkPads dot Com; Chris Schumann; ThinkPad
Mailing List
> >> Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] 7200RPM Travelstar
> >>
> >>
> >> Bill,
> >>
> >> Do you see a $300 worth of difference -or a dramatic
difference anyway?
> >> I've heard list members say there was a noticable
difference when updating
> >> to the 5400 rpm and now one can go to near double from
the 4200? The
> >> thought is in regards older tp's rather than the new
light speed stuff.
> >>
> >> Bryan
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Bill - ThinkPads dot Com" <bill@thinkpads.com>
> >> To: "Chris Schumann" <cschumann@twp-llc.com>; "ThinkPad
Mailing List"
> >> <thinkpad@stderr.org>
> >> Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 9:44 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] 7200RPM Travelstar
> >>
> >>
> >> > chris..
> >> > hate to say this but its old news..
> >> > been selling the new T40p with that same drive..
> >> > it is $300+ more than the fast (5400RPM) 40gig
counterpart..
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > *******************
> >> > Cordially,
> >> > Bill Morrow
> >> > (from NetFinity Server)
> >> > web page: http://www.thinkpads.com
> >> > bill@thinkpads.com
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Chris Schumann" <cschumann@twp-llc.com
> >> > To: "ThinkPad Mailing List" <thinkpad@stderr.org>
> >> > Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 10:49 AM
> >> > Subject: [Thinkpad] 7200RPM Travelstar
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > Hitachi now makes a Travelstar laptop drive with
7200RPM.
> >> > > I was stunned. Here are some prices for the 60GB(!)
drive:
> >> > >
> >> >
http://techbargains.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php?mast
> >> > erid=986506&foun
> >> > > d=2&search=7k60
> >> > >
> >> > > The E7K60 has an 8MB cache, uses about 2.5W while
in use
> >> > > and has a continuous data transfer rate of about
60MB/s.
> >> > > It's "always on" and rated for 50% lifetime duty
cycle.
> >> > > http://www.hgst.com/hdd/travel/tre7k60.htm
> >> > > </drool>
> >> > >
> >> > > The 7K60 is basically the same but apparently not
> >> > warranted
> >> > > for such heavy usage.
> >> > > http://www.hgst.com/hdd/travel/tr7k60.htm
> >> > >
> >> > > Looks like they are still behind Toshiba in the
area of
> >> > > cache size though. Some Toshiba drives have 16MB
cache.
> >> > >
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