Re: [Thinkpad] What's a good choice?

He asked about a 770X
I do think the Z is worth a bit more
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Gorenbergh" <gorenbergh@mags.net>
To: "Ray Bayles" <canyonlands@theriver.com>
Cc: "Colgrove, George" <George.Colgrove@state.vt.us>; <James@thinkpads.com>;
<thinkpad@stderr.org>; "Chris Schumann" <cschumann@twp-llc.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 4:07 PM
Subject: RE: [Thinkpad] What's a good choice?

> ebay is probably the best indicator of current market value of a ThinkPad
> 770z.
>
> Click on the link below of recent, completed, auctions for this machine.
> Prices range from a low of $100 (sold) to a high of $425 (no bids).
>
> <
>
http://search.ebay.com/ws/search/SaleSearch?exclude=&ebaytag1code_tmp=&ebayt
>
ag1_tmp=&sosortproperty=1&ht=1&from=R6&satitle=thinkpad+770z&sorecordsperpag
> e=50&sacategory=51148&catref=C1 >
>
> In 1999, this machine had a list price of $4000+
>
> I bought my ThinkPad 770x (used) in January 2000 for $1000
> with 20 months remaining on a 36 month warranty.
> That's a 75% depreciation in 16 months!
>
> In December 2003, the approximate used price for a Thinkpad 770z
> on ebay is approximately $160. That's a 96% deprecation after
> 48 months.
>
> Steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ray Bayles [mailto:canyonlands@theriver.com]
> Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 15:47
> To: Steven Gorenbergh
> Cc: Colgrove, George; James@thinkpads.com; Chris Schumann;
> thinkpad@stderr.org
> Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] What's a good choice?
>
>
> I'm not asking to buy it, but curious... If you were to sell your 770X
> today, what would the selling price be? I love the machine, but what is
> it worth compared to a 600X, A21p, T-23? Refurbished?
>
> I use the 770X as a rental machine for people who come to southern
> Arizona to play golf and want to check their email... They are tough,
> and perform well, but are just old and ugly enough to reduce the chance
> of theft.
>
> I think the T-30, T-23, A21P, and even the 600X are better values for
> the money... That is unless the 770X is now very inexpensive.
>
> I would still buy a bunch of them if I could find them, but would no
> longer use one as my primary machine. Except for the occasional power
> inverter failure, and the frequent floppy drive failure, it is as rugged
> as IBM ever made.
>
> Ray Bayles
>
> Steven Gorenbergh wrote:
>
> > I have and use a ThinkPad 770X with the following upgrades:
> >
> > * CPU: from PII 300Mhz to PII 400Mhz
> > * Memory: from 32MB to 320MB
> > * HD: from 8.4 GB(4200RPM) to 20GB (5400RPM, with fluid drive)
> > * Communications: 56KB Mwave modem (disabled) to Xircom CardBus
> > Modem/Ethernet PCCard
> > * OS: from Windows 98 to Windows 2000 Pro + SP3
> >
> > The only other upgrade I wish was possible was Video Ram. With the 14.1"
> > LCD,
> > you are limited to 4MB; the 13.7" screen had 8MB. Unfortunately, you
> cannot
> > use 8MB of ram with the 14.1" screen.
> >
> > I have owned this machine for (3) years; my unit was manufactured in
1999.
> > Over my (3) years of ownership, the major components had problems:
> >
> > - Power Inverter: failed this past summer (after 4 years)
> > - Hard Drive: still works but failed the Smart Defender diagnostics
> >
> > This machine is currently used as a home server with a SelectaDock III
> > and SCSI CD-R burner.
> >
> > For a ThinkPad that is entering it's 5th year of operation, I have been
> very
> > pleased and impressed.
> >
> > However, in 2004, I would recommend a T23 (with a 14.1" LCD) or a A21P
> (with
> > a 15" LCD). I have been using a T23 (with Win2000) and a docking
stations
> > as my daily machine for the past 7 months. I am very pleased with the
T23,
> > especially with the WiFI capabilities.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Colgrove, George [mailto:George.Colgrove@state.vt.us]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 13:27
> > To: 'James@thinkpads.com'; Chris Schumann; thinkpad@stderr.org
> > Subject: RE: [Thinkpad] What's a good choice?
> >
> >
> > What is the largest CPU that can go into the 770Z, if I put 100MHz
memory
> > in?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: James H. E. Maugham [mailto:James.H.Maugham@verizon.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 1:23 PM
> > To: Chris Schumann; thinkpad@stderr.org
> > Subject: RE: [Thinkpad] What's a good choice?
> >
> > Chris,
> >
> > Chris Schumann wrote:
> >
> >
> >>DVD: Yes. 2x-6x, so not screaming fast, but fine.
> >
> >
> > Actually, a 6X DVD drive is equivalent to a 48X CD, so yes, that _IS_
> > blisteringly fast.
> >
> > Besides, when it comes to watching a DVD, or playing an audio CD, they
ALL
> > run
> > at only 1X.
> >
> >
> >>RAM: I've got 448MB.
> >
> >
> > 600X will go to 576MB.
> >
> >
> >>It's lighter than a 770Z, and goes as fast as 650MHz PIII (or 800MHz
with
> >>an upgrade). That's with 100MHz memory too, so the memory is 50% faster.
> >
> >
> > Max upgrade on the 650MHz 600X is a PIII 850MHz. The 770Z happily uses
> PC100
> > RAM, but I haven't gotten one past 512MB yet.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > James
> >
> >
> >
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