Re: [Thinkpad] What's up with the Thinkpad lineup?

i have several customers who bought the two 1gig parts..
all IT guys..
developers using several OS's and working on huge databases and one
customer who must run a proprietary app of some kind the REQUIRES 2gig or
more..

<sigh> :-)

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Cordially,
Bill Morrow
(from NetFinity Server)
web page: http://www.thinkpads.com
bill@thinkpads.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "STeve Andre'" <andres@msu.edu>
To: <thinkpad@stderr.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] What's up with the Thinkpad lineup?

> 99% of the people using computers aren't going to need 1G, and
> only a fraction of that will be able to use more. But there are uses
> for the intense and insane users...
>
> I've used 1G when dealing with bugs in some of the gnu software,
> in particular linking. 800M+ for one app, and I know a friend who
> was compiling something using gcc, gtk libraries and something
> else that did manage to get beyond 1G. But that was mostly a
> bug.
>
> Real actual uses include keeping a ram disk around for storing
> compiler temp files and obj files for an op system when compiling,
> for speed optimization.
>
> Finite element analysis can eat up vast vast tracks of memory;
> patran comes to mind, and another package that starts with a
> V. I had 512M systems at the time, I remember crashing into
> swap issues--1G of swap wasn't enough: I had to make 4G
> paritions for one usage.
>
> Lastly, I've help some people with self-written programs that
> were/are used in analysis of antennas and circuits that took
> forever to run and use 2G or so.
>
> I've never seen it, but I know friends who have used a cad
> package (autocad?) that used more than 1G, and I have a
> prof at work whose use of SPSS can use more than 1G.
>
> There really are uses for large amounts of memory. Probably
> just a tiny fraction of the users out there, but IBM is hearing
> about them, because they're offering 2G capable machines
> now. I know one person who bought a T40 or T41?) because
> of the ability to go beyond 1G so when they need that ability
> later this year, they'll just have to change out DIMMs.
>
> --STeve Andre'
>
> On Wednesday 21 January 2004 03:20 pm, Ray Bayles wrote:
> > I would be interested to learn what actual software or practice you
were
> > involved that required that amount of memory. Please enlighten us on
> > what kind of work can make use of that kind of RAM on a laptop.
> >
> > Less than one tenth of one percent of software available will even
> > access that much memory.
> >
> > In my work with lots of clients, the only ones I have seen using huge
> > modules were mechanical engineers using AutoCad together with various
> > plug ins while working at home. Their desktops at work were designed
> > specifically for advanced AutoCad applications.
> >
> > Photoshop and other design programs don't work significantly better
when
> > you go from 2 GB to 4 GB on a Thinkpad. I do a great amount of image
> > work with Photoshop, InDesign, and AutoCAD.
> >
> > The more important figure for such high memory work is the amount of
> > cache... 1024 or more, and the Front Side bus.
> >
> > If there is a way to use the memory, I need to advise my clients that I
> > have been misleading them.
> >
> >
> > Ray
> >
> > STeve Andre' wrote:
> > > Heh. I can think of all sorts of reasons to want more than 2G in a
> > > laptop. For me, this is my main machine for everything I do. A
three
> > > spindle machine means that I have a lot of flexability, and there
have
> > > been times when I've crashed into my 1G limit on my A31p. 2G is
> > > better, but given how small DIMMs are, having four slots really would
> > > be reasonable. I've helped out on applications which actually use 4G
> > > of ram. Note that IBM keeps raising the ability of ThinkPads, and
> > > people keep buying them...
> > >
> > > --STeve Andre'
>
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