Re: [Thinkpad] Re: [OT] Free Windows Security Update CD

From: STeve Andre' <andres_at_msu.edu>
Date: Fri Feb 20 2004 - 05:50:12 EST

On Thursday 19 February 2004 09:10 pm, Andrew in Ann Arbor wrote:
> > I was very interested, but then they wanted my phone number!
>
> I'm so absent minded I almost always seem to transpose digits in my
> phone number.....
>
> > I really need SP4 on a CD
>
> Based on my experience with WIN98 Lite service packs are not required if
> you remove the vulnerable components completely.
> I intend to try the same approach with Win2K.
> This means I have to live without Windows scripts but the only people I
> know clever enough to write scripts (aside from you guys) seem to be
> intent on separating me from my money.

Andrew: *You need them*. Never, never ever think that you
can know what is inside the beast of Windows, and can get
around whatever problems you want to deal with.

Windows is a closed source system. You cannot know what an
SP does--not really. I akin working with Windows patches to
being in a dimly lit room, moving boxes around. There is just
enough light available to sort of see the contents printed on
them, but you can't read the fine print. Whle you can move
things around, you don't really know what you're doing. Not
really.

So it is with Windows. SP4 contains 1,486 files that I could
identify, covering all the problems from SP3 for what, about
a year? To say that you don't need them is a really dangeruous
thing. I'm now encountering problems with machines where I
applied patches that are in SP4 but which I applied as they
came out.

Management of patches--a never ending series of little
patches--is getting worse and worse. At this point I have
no evidence to suggest that for clients, service packs
should not be applied. Of course since I can't stare at the
code I could be wrong, but the evidence of my dealing with
some 90+ Windows machines on a daily basis suggests
otherwise.

--STeve Andre'
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