Re: [Thinkpad] Re: China Computer Maker Acquires IBM PC Biz, order parts now

From: Bruce Markowitz <scosgt_at_worldnet.att.net>
Date: Wed Dec 08 2004 - 21:26:34 EST

Vicky, I must disagree with you here.
A domestic business is bring bought out by a foreign company. The business
climate in that country, language differences, labor practices are all quite
relevent as to the success of the venture and the satisfaction of the
ThinkPad customers. Fact is, some Chinese imports have been BANNED as
punishment for various recent transgressions. What if ThinkPads are banned
from importation?
Quality of Chinese made goods has been interesting - very robust, but no
real workmanship (I have owned several Chinese made firearms).
What if the owners manuals are produced there - we have all had Asian made
products that the manuals were just plain indeciperable.
I think the customer service issue is real - what if you call 1-800-IBM-SERV
and get a Chinese speaking person who can barely speak English - how will
you get service.
None of this is a disucssion of ethnicity. Nor does Dr. King have thing one
to do with any of this.
This is simply a discussion of whether the quality and service associated
with ThinkPads can be maintanined in a country known for shoddy workmanship
and human rights abuses, and which has great cultural differences with the
US and Western Europe. Maybe their idea of customer service is not the same
as ours! Maybe their idea of quality is not the same as ours. Certainly a
valid topic discussion, and not racist at all. People in China speak a
different language, and are poorly paid. That is just fact.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vicky Lamburn" <victoria@sunshinesista.fsworld.co.uk>
To: "Nonny Mouse" <nonnymouse@gmail.com>; "Jim Biggerstaff"
<duh2000@verizon.net>
Cc: "thinkpad" <thinkpad@stderr.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] Re: China Computer Maker Acquires IBM PC Biz,order
parts now

> Hello,
>
> A short and sweet message, but I have read some of the messages on here
> since the discussions between IBM an Lenovo emerged, with complete and
utter
> disgust.
>
> But I held back because flame wars are best kept to the newsgroups. ;)
>
> However, I just want to agree - this list is about ThinkPads - not which
> ethnicity, country or political paradigm is superior - such thoughts are
> best kept to one's self or within the confines of people who you know who
> share similar thoughts - not a computing mailing list.
>
> Martin Luther King was on to something when he said about judging by
> conduct - not by colour in his particular speech, then let the IBM/Lenovo
> partnership be judged by its conduct, not the nationality of the majority
> shareholder or its past as a supposed benchmark of the future.
>
> AFAIC - my T23 still works as it did before the 'sale'; and I will
continue
> to use it till it breaks or it's just too out of date, which will be some
> time yet.
>
> Vicky
> A citizen of the world, not a nation.
>
>
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