Re: [Thinkpad] Need another answer

it appears that mr. jim clark wants the answer he wants and is unwilling to
make changes..
there is also a bit of bitterness coming out..

most any of us with experience would suggest that he stay with what he has
or get a newer model..
upgrading the cpu, etc., is a road with many potholes and pitfalls.. :-)
even though there are those on my open forum who would (and do) argue that
point..
with all the terrific used off lease thinkpads for near nothing, trying to
ressurect an old 380 series seems an exercise in useless work, risk and
expense..
the term saying "silk purse from a sow's ear" comes to mind..

so, let mr. clark do what he wants to do..
and if we have any spare parts hanging around, offer them, free, as a good
deed..

to that end i have some old memory parts hanging around, not sure if he
could use them, though..

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Markowitz" <scosgt@worldnet.att.net>
To: <raybay@broadcast.net>; "Thinkpad Users Group" <thinkpad@stderr.org>
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] Need another answer

Hey, I said that and he got mad at me!
But if it supports 16MB SIMMS, then there is a shot at a 32MB working etc.
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Canyonlands Computer Services
  To: Thinkpad Users Group
  Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 8:12 PM
  Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] Need another answer

  As I recall from my old 365 machines, there were four series of 365
  machines, and one of them with some luck could be jumped up to 72
  MB... But you had to be lucky because even memory from the same
  manufacturer didn't always perform the same as other modules.

  365 2625-XXX 1 slot, 8 mb non-removable onboard, 40 MB total
  365 C/CS/CD/CSD 1 slot, 8 mb non-removable onboard, 24 MB total
  365 E/ED 1 slot, 8 mb non-removable onboard, 24 MB total
  365X 1 slot, 8 mb non-removable onboard, 72 MB
  total with one lucky
                                           64 MB module that worked by
surprise.

  I tried replacing CPU's with a number of other Thinkpads, and had no
  luck. As I recall, nobody had any luck.

  Stacked modules and other tricks never worked eitherr.

  The 365 was a fine machine for use with Windows 95, but worthless by
  later standards set by the 760, 765, 770, 560, 570 and so on.

  I strongly recommend that you waste no more time and money on this
  machine. You can buy a good used machine cheaper than you can buy
  modules or cpu that work for this one.

  Ray Bayles

  On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 20:01:27 -0500, Bruce Markowitz
  <scosgt@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> Again, AFAIK that can not be done, there are no RAM doublers for
laptops.
> Now the RAM limit you state may not be accurate - many times the
published spec came out before the larger RAM chips became available, and it
possibly can handle a larger chip.
> But I don't recall any follow up to that series, so I doubt there is
another mobo that can fit in. As I recall that machine is basically a 486
with a non-Intel chip, and they called it a "586". There used to be some
folks that made a CPU upgrade, but I doubt that would be cost effective at
this point if you could even find one.
> I don't remember what type of RAM that takes, but if it has 8MB on
board, then there is an ADD ON 16MB, maybe EDO SIMM? If so, try a 32MB and
see if it works.
> If it has 4MB on board, then it must have twoX8 add ons, and of course
you should be able to replace with a 16 or two. It most likely would not
support a 64MB DIMM, and they would be expensive anyway.
>
> AND I HATE IT WHEN I AM BEING HELPFUL AND SOMEONE TELLS ME I AM NOT
BEING HELPFUL. DON'T DO THAT AGAIN.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jim Clark
> To: thinkpad@stderr.org
> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 8:05 PM
> Subject: [Thinkpad] Need another answer
>
> With all due respect, this reply is not helpful. If I could find a
newer machine
> that I could afford, I wouldn't be upgrading this one - we live on
"social
> insecurity". Also my spouse would be upset if she saw a different
machine, given
> our situation. Our computers were acquired before I took a mandatory
retirement
> and we can't be buying toys we don't need.
>
> I do not care about XP which is on my wife's newer machine - I usually
use Linux
> on my computers. I need to upgrade this laptop, which already has a
larger disk
> drive than the original 500 MB, for use on short driving trips to
check email and
> do financial stuff. The Windows emulator on Linux uses Windows 98
which runs
> fine on this machine, except with more RAM I could speed it up a
little.
>
> Due to contacts with fellow retirees, I can get the RAM basically
free, once my
> machine can use it (if it doesn't cost a lot to modify it). A plug-in
adapter
> would be fine if it works - I remember when adapters were available
for desktops
> that allowed "doubling up" RAM SIMMS/DIMMS/etc.
>
> I keep seeing postings that people acquired newer Thinkpads for $25
but I don't
> have a clue how to find these sources.
>
> Jim
>
> Jim
> With all due respect, that machine is not up to the latest operating
systems, and
> there is not much you can do about that. Use it for a print server or
a DOS
> machine. For not too much $$, you can get a more modern machine (such
as a 570)
> that can do XP reasonable well and be much more useful
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jim Clark
> To: thinkpad at stderr.org
> Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 2:47 PM
> Subject: [Thinkpad] Upgrade a Thinkpad 365ED
>
> Is there any way to put a newer motherboard in a 365ED to get around
the 24MB RAM
> limitation? [Even if it means cutting some more openings in the
case] Or is there
> a way to workaround that limitation, such as an adapter plug?
> Thanks
> Jim
>
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