Re: [Thinkpad] Nabble

It is not totally public because you need to subscribe with a valid email
address to be able to post, and can be unsubscribed by the list owner and
therefore stopped from posting.
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From: <mje@foxall.com.au>
To: <thinkpad@stderr.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 7:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] Nabble

> [David Ross:]
>
> >I think that while this list is not private, neither is it fully public.
>
> It is searchable in Google; anyone can find out about the list's
> existence; anyone can join without moderator approval: how is that
anything
> less than fully public? How could it be *more* public than that?
>
>
> >For example, it is not the
> >Usenet newsgroup ibm.ibmpc.thinkpad. Its incorporation into a portal
> >like Nabble will make it largely indistinguishable from such a newsgroup.
>
> Perhaps one difference is that lots of newsgroups have absolutely no
> moderation and tend to permit indefinite flame wars. In lists like this,
there
> is at least the possibility of moderation or expulsion of members who
> misbehave, however little that may be exercised in a routine, day-by-day
manner.
>
>
> >... it certainly raises the question of why it should exist
> >at all in preference to that newsgroup.
>
> I suppose this question would apply to any mailing list about a topic
> which has more than one mailing list on the Internet devoted to that
topic. I
> suppose any mailing list which is started which duplicates a topic is
created
> because the founder thought he or she had something to offer which the
existing
> ones didn't; or even just because he/she felt like creating it. And such
a
> list continues to exist if enough members continue to think that list has
> something worthwhile to offer. I don't see how there need be any reason
beyond
> that.
>
>
> >I find the argument that we can't stop people from leeching the list,
> >and therefore shouldn't try because "life's too short for that,"
> >curiously uncompelling. One must choose one's battles, but need not
> >surrender at the mere prospect of the battle.
>
> People will vary in how many (if any) battles they want to take on in
> life. Perhaps I am less combative than some; but this Nabble issue is not
one
> of the battles I would be most likely to choose to take on.
>
>
> >I do not object to the archiving of knowledge, but do not like someone
> >else appropriating intellectual property that others have donated and
> >marketing it as their own.
>
> I would also consider it objectionable if they misrepresented the
> information as being their own, and took away any visible credit to the
real
> creators. But, so far as I've observed, sites that duplicate content seem
to
> display that content in full, including the names and e-mail addresses of
the
> authors. That doesn't sound to me like trying to present it as their own
> content.
> The one piece of obfuscation I *would* welcome is partial deletion of
e-
> mail addresses to hide them from spammers, in the manner of Yahoo Groups
> archives, where for example my own address would be represented by
something
> like "mje@...". It tells those in the know who the author is, but is not
a
> usable e-mail address for outsiders or spambots looking for spam fodder.
> To me, this would be a battle more worth pursuing than what Nabble
(and
> probably dozens of other people) are doing. I don't know if it's
technically
> feasible for most mailing lists, though.
> I made this point before, but no-one commented on it. Does no-one
else
> think it would be a real enhancement to this publicly archived list for
e-mail
> addresses to be partly disguised?
>
> Regards,
> Michael Edwards.
>
>
>
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